Women Discuss the Nonsense They’re Still Expected to Put Up With

As a male, I have never once envied women. I know that some guys say they do, but I’ve never understood that. And the more I learn, the truer that is.

women, what is something that women experience and is seen as “normal” but is actually very wrong/shouldn’t be as accepted as it is? from AskWomen

Here are just a few of the awful impediments associated with womanhood, as laid out by the women of Reddit.

1. Downplaying how bad periods are.

I hate this, I was so used to thinking it was normal to feel horrible pain and I was being a baby, I remember several times I kept on with my plans although I felt like dying because I was taught I had to.

Turns out I have endometriosis and It makes me so mad.

– eatingcookiesallday

2. The s**pectations.

Feeling “expected” to have s** and having their pleasure being secondary.

I experienced this a lot when I was younger and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Like, I thought if I was kissing a guy “well, now I’m expected to have s** with him because he’s turned on. I guess I have to.” And also thinking that during s**, the end goal was really mostly about him.

It wasn’t until I was older than I realized how flawed it was for me to think that way and for men to have reinforced that thinking via their actions.

– GreenMountain85

3. “Boys will be boys.”

inappropriate behavior from men, especially from a young age.

If a boy hits a little girl he “just likes her”. That little boy grows up thinking there’s no repercussion for violence, and keeps hitting women.

The cycle just goes on.

– professional_joe

4. Restricted movement.

dressing little girls in a way that makes it difficult for them to move around. your four year old should not miss out on valuable play because she doesn’t want to mess up her clothes or hair. her appearance should be the last freaking thing on her mind.

it makes me so angry to see little girls having to sit on the sidelines while their brothers and male cousins play rambunctiously because their parents put them in a dress and expensive shoes. i hate the bulls**t propaganda that little girls “naturally” prefer playing quietly indoors and/or alone.

sure, it may be true for some little girls (just like it’s also true for some little boys), but you cannot tell me that socialisation doesn’t play a massive role in what kind of play children “naturally” prefer.

– [deleted user]

5. Mansplaining.

That condescending and infuriatingly arrogant tone that some men take on when explaining something (be it a hobby, some interesting fact, or the fundamentals of this and that) when their listener is a woman.

I understand that this may simply be done to impress rather than be irritating, but just knowing that they wouldn’t dare talk this way to male friend or colleague is…well, irritating.

– Marjory_SB

6. Degrading terminology.

Women being called “girls.” Whether it is conscious or not, it implies a lack of maturity and, therefore, deserved respect. Among countless other places I have heard this, I attempted to watch a season of The Bachelor (bad decision for many reasons) and I could not stand how often the women were called “girls.”

I couldn’t bring myself to check out The Bachelorette, but I suspect the men are never called “boys.”

– merrypoppin

7. “Why don’t you smile?”

When I was a kid, I usually cried when they insisted me to smile. I have millions of pictures of me crying, with watery eyes or looking really mad on family weddings.

There’s this one picture that I specifically remember my mother asking me to smile “cmon, show me some teeth!” And I literally just showing my teeth, no smile. What a brave little girl I was.

I started to smile by obligation later on, after my first job

– an_angry_kirby

8. Constant scrutiny.

The constant picking apart of women’s appearance by basically everyone and holding women to insane beauty standards.

Extensions, false lashes, makeup, drawn on eyebrows, contouring tricks to change your face, dye your hair, dress s**y, don’t dress too s**y, wax your privates, dye your hair, stay in shape, have a big butt, tiny waist, push up bras, get fake nails, on and on and freakin on.

– Snoo55011

9. Bizarre expectations.

I find it a bit insulting when you see a picture of a woman who is really pretty and you find out that she’s a top scientist or engineer or a doctor, something very prestigious, and a person says “ Wow, She’s pretty, I wasn’t expecting that!”

What, like are smart people usually butt ugly? pretty girls can’t be smart? Wtf! I feel like that’s really common and needs to end.

– itsrachyrach

10. Absorbing men’s dysfunction.

He was abused? She’ll talk him through the best therapy she can manage.

He was never taught how to (normal life skill here)? She’ll do it for him.

He’s too macho to take care of himself? She’ll nag him till he does, and she better be a good sport and laugh as she’s ridiculed for “being a nag”.

– plotthick

11. Harassment in the workplace.

Obviously harassment in ANY workplace is vile and wrong, but my aunt once told me to except to be flirted with, hit on, and harassed if I continued to work in kitchens/restaurants.

She said it was “just part of the territory” and that I needed to just “understand that that’s the environment.”

Excuse me? No. I don’t care what the environment is, women shouldn’t have to put up with harassment in the workplace.

– landw497

12. Not being listened to.

Seriously; I recently had a two-minute conversation with four of the men in my department (only woman there), and I had three of them in series each claim I was wrong about a different technical point, then immediately tell me the “correct” answer which was exactly what I had just told them.

I looked to the fourth man and asked him, “Did that just happen?” He agreed. Lots of pouty faces that day for being called on it in front of the boss.

– Arbiter_of_Balance

13. “The body count.”

I love s**. I need s**. If I met a guy I like (at least he’s hot, let’s put intelligence to the side).

I want him. I flirt with him. He wants me too. We f**k. I am happy. He is happy. We don’t want the relationship to go any further and maybe we even stop talking and never see each other again.

Who is seen as a slut? Me.

Who is seen as a hero? Him.

Wtf?

Even if it was me seducing him? Even if it was consent from both sides? Even though it was two people just wanting to f**k each other and nothing more?

I think to be a slut you have to sleep around with guys you don’t even like, and maybe when you regret your hookups, but it doesn’t belong to any gender. Guys can be sluts too. And I knew many that are, I mean, they f**k girls once and they say they didn’t even like them? They say they are ugly etc.

What the f**k?

– -acidlean-

14. “When a boy is mean to you, that means he likes you…”

JUST NO!!!

Anyone that truly loves you will not hurt you mentally, physically, or verbally. EVER!!! They tell you this s**t when you’re young to prepare your for a dirtbag husband in the future and some women never get the common sense to see that it’s actually a bully!

Ugh, this totally just grinds my gears!!!!! 🤬

– Chuck2025

15. Being treated like you’re frail.

When people won’t let you do things because you’re a woman or tell you to wait for or get your male partner to do that thing.

I know it might be put across, commonly, as a care or consideration, but it’s condescending, diminishing and a deprivation, at times.

– riverkaylee

We all need to do better.

What would you add to this list?

Tell us in the comments.

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