Former Flat-Earthers Discuss What Made Them Realize They Were Wrong

I’ve been fascinated by conspiracy theory subcultures since back when they were…not electing our government officials.

And it’s troubling, watching people hold firmly to beliefs that don’t stand up to even the barest scrutiny, and stand in defiance of literally every scrap of available evidence.

So, what do we do? Is there a way out? That’s what Reddit user jbarms wanted to know.

Former Flat Earthers. What made you come round? from AskReddit

As many pointed out, jbarms should probably have used the “serious” tag, as the thread was overrun by hundreds of terrible jokes.

But sprinkled in among them were a few real stories of people who’d changed their minds, or worked to change the minds of others.

Let’s have a look.

1. “That’s how big the earth is.”

I convinced a flat earther, temporarily, by asking him if it was possible for a sphere to be so large that you could not tell it was a sphere my simply being on the surface of it.

It took him a while, I used an analogy of a extremely long line that was so slightly curved you could not tell so by looking at a small section of it.

Eventually he said yes to the sphere and I told him that was how big the earth is.

A few days later he reverted, most of these people aren’t mentally stable, they believe in a lot of conspiracies.

– McClain3000

2. “None of this would work at all.”

I talked to a flat-earther about my job working for a company that tracks ship locations, routes, and speeds by satellite. We also had ways of monitoring carbon emissions based on fuel consumption and known weather conditions. None of this would work at all if the earth was flat. Not a jot of it.

I could only explain the most basic concepts, but it was enough for him to understand and realize that I was right and that he’d been convinced by someone who had no practical experience of the spherical nature of the Earth. I think that’s what really did it – my experience was really tangible. This happens then this happens then we measure this etc etc… no theory, just practice. A bit like showing a child a rock dropping to the ground in order to explain gravity, rather than giving them the whole theoretical shebang. Y’know?

– Administrative-Task9

3. “Why?”

A serious answer here

The thing that made me stop was just the question “why would nasa lie to you”

– The_Holy_Fork

4. “They mostly make me sad.”

I spent about a year infiltrating the flat Earth community on Instagram. I garnered a decent following with an account dedicated to flat earth travel photos (an intentionally absurd premise).

In that time I learned a quite a bit about the community including how to discern the trolls from the real deal. The majority of legit flat earthers are extremely distrustful of anything the government says or does. These same people are 9/11 truthers, Holocaust deniers, and anti-vaxxers and they connect these conspiracies together. Many of them have also attached flat Earth theory to religion, magic, or mysticism.

Before my infiltration I’d always considered conspiracies fun. Like they were the fan fiction of real life. Now they mostly make me sad. For all the phony accounts like mine, there are still plenty of people out there willing to drop a couple of hundred dollars on a flat Earth convention.

– Zelph_Onandagus

5. “Time away to detox.”

Not a flat earther. But I was a 9-11 “truther” I guess you could say–insofar as I thought it was an inside job. I was heavily influenced and believed in multiple conspiracies in the Zeitgeist film as well. There was a never ending source of dark, shadowy “they’s and them’s” controlling everything behind the scenes.

I think there were a few factors that helped me escape that:

• Losing my father. It was such a life changing event at that age that it made me reconsider everything in my life.

• Some light training in evaluating information. I learned about how to vet sources, primary, whether something was actually news or just an opinion/editorial, etc.. Ironically, this education came before I was duped. After my dad died, suddenly this started to kick in more.

• Lack of time/means to dig myself a deeper hole. I started college shortly after my father passed and that + a full time job took up all my time. I had none to buy further into the newest crazy bullsh*t. I had no Facebook/Twitter/IG/etc.. No smart phone or texting. My primary use of Reddit once I discovered it was for r/Naruto, r/Bleach, rage comics, and advice animals.

So all in all, I think the time away gave me time to detox. If I had been on social media as I discovered those things, I can only imagine I very well may have become a Q believer as well.

Looking back I see how gullible I was in that moment, fooled by the onslaught of half truths and clever “logic” of the various theories. I know better now (and I should have known better then), but I’ve been humbled to the fact that everyone is vulnerable to this sort of stuff. To think otherwise is deluding yourself.

– redyellowblue5031

6.  “He required no proof.”

Not me, but got a flat Earther to question his beliefs (and hopefully critically analyze them) by giving him the proof he asked for, to which he responded “mainstream science and media are lies”.

I asked why he asked for proof if he could just disregard it as lies either way, then told him that since he required no proof (or evidence against) to believe something, it made him the easiest person to deceive and that it seemed pretty sheep-like to me.

He deleted all of his flat earth comments and hasn’t posted about it since.

​ – thelife0fZ

7. “Facts and logic.”

Surprisingly enough. Facts and logic. More specifically star patterns. What we observe can not happen on a flat earth.

– Safinkodyr

8. “Five years.”

It took about five years.

It was alot of willfull ignorance on my part, I just refused to question the logic of it. In fact I spent most of my time coming up with crazy fantasies about alot of things I didn’t understand.

But you have to understand that there is just so much we don’t know about that sometimes our priority on what is real and what can be believed can get confused.

I was learning so much so fast that I really didn’t question something so inane as the world being flat. Of course it was, why wouldn’t it be.

The day that changed it forever though was when I asked my father what happens when you get to the edge of the world, he of course said the world is round like a ball.

Being about five years old I thought that made alot of sense.

– Orbitaldropbear

9. “The Bible declared the earth was flat.”

Okay I get the question is funny and all but I actually did believe, for a time, that the earth was flat.

I was raised in a very religious family, and basically came to the conclusion that the Bible declared the earth was flat, because since I believed the earth was created in seven days, the idea that God set the stars in the sky in one day made much more sense if the stars were simply points of light in a sort of snow globe formation extrapolated onto a bigger scale. Otherwise, he took one day out of the seven to make a septillion or so balls of flaming gas, all with their own planets, and set each one into galaxies before breaking for lunch. It just didn’t make sense to me that he would spend five days on one planet, and make the creation of the trillions of other stuff in the universe a little footnote.

I was confronted about this belief a couple times, only one of which wasn’t laughed off. That single person who engaged started a serious discussion, presenting much more evidence for the globe earth, and eventually told me to watch Carl Sagan. The Cosmos series was on YouTube, and once I watched it, I had to know more.

Finally, a video from the channel MinutePhysics convinced me, in no uncertain terms, that the earth was round.

– maleorderbride

10. “A rabbit hole of conspiracies.”

I feel into a rabbit hole of conspiracies.

Thankfully, physics is a mandatory subject in Switzerland, made much more sense that any « top 10 facts that prove that the earth is flat

– Lykorice

11. “Winter in Brazil and summer in the USA.”

I once had a conversation with a professional UFC fighter and outspoken Flat Earther. I tried to explain how Archimedes was able to prove the Earth was round just by using his shadow. I mentioned air travel and how Hawaii and Japan are not 20+ hours of flying apart.

But what I think got through to him the most was seasons. This particular guy was Brazilian. I explained that because the Earth is round, it’s possible to be winter in Brazil and summer in the USA and vice versa.

He nodded and stared off into the distance silently and the conversation was over.

I don’t think I “converted” him but it gave him significant pause at the very least.

– PlaneShenaniganz

12. “Sunsets.”

Sunsets man. Sunsets.

I watched all these videos read a book on it talked to people about it. I was one of them.

Everyone else was crazy for not seeing the truth.(still i have a lot of questions about how the heck this thing could possibly be a globe but thats besides the point) but i had an answer for everything.

People would ask why dont we fall off the edge? There is no edge the earths an infinite space. Why do balloons pop when they go high enough? Because theres only so much air and it sinks to the earths surface but eventually you can fly above it and then theres no pressure of the air pushing against the ballon so it pops. Hows gravity work? Gravity is made up i believe in buoyancy.

But one day somebody asked me if the sun is a spotlight in the sky then how does a sunset work. I was like uh.. and i looked into it.

Couldn’t find anything that makes sense. Sunsets turned me back

– NamelessSithNPC

13. “It appears to be.”

While having coffee with my sister one day, she revealed that she was a flat earther.

I said I wasn’t going to try and convince her otherwise because if literally millions of pieces of evidence doesn’t convince you, then nothing I can say will, but I will ask you a couple of question so that I can understand a bit more. This was the brief conversation:

Q. Do you think the sun is round? Her answer – It appears to be

Q. Do you think the moon is round? Her answer – it appears to be

Q do you think all the other planets are round? Her answer – they appear to be

​So to clarify, you’re saying that the sun, the moon and all the planets are round but we’re floating on a flat disk in the same space. Ok.

I think it made a difference from the look on her face but we’ve never spoken of it again.

– ThelastReject

14. “The heartbreak seemed genuine.”

I entertained it for a while.

What convinced me the earth was a sphere was a video I came across of a group of flat earthers doing a laser test over water. They found a stretch of level water around 2 miles long, then used level lasers to measure the distance from the water.

The test came back quite accurately indicating the earth was a sphere and not flat. They all got super upset and were crying about it.

Seems like a doable and effective test and their reaction, confusion and heartbreak seemed genuine.

– w1lliamsss

15. “Keep a secret.”

Our government couldn’t even keep Bill Clinton’s Oval Office bl*wjob a secret.

You really think they can keep something that big a secret?

– HippoShogun

I’ve heard it said that you can’t reason a person out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. I’m not sure I agree with that. I think the important thing to remember is that it almost never happens in just one conversation. It takes time. People change their minds in little bits.

What’s the craziest thing you used to believe?

Tell us in the comments.

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People Talk About Conspiracy Theories That They Think Might Be Legit

I’ve been pretty obsessed with the 1963 assassination of John F. Kennedy since I was a little kid.

Who was behind it?

The Mafia? The Cubans? Russians?  Or was it just a lone wolf, like the government would have us believe?

The JFK assassination is just one of many conspiracy theories that people can spend a lot of time researching.

Can some of them possibly be true?

Here’s what AskReddit users had to say about this subject.

1. A coup.

“The 1975 dismissal of the then Australian Prime Minister, Gough Whitam (by the Governor General) was actually a British/American backed CIA coup, in order to prevent the nationalisation of Australia’s mining sector.”

2. Soviet space program.

“Yuri Gagarin wasn’t the first man in space, just the first to come back alive.”

3. Could it be true?

“There’s a very high chance that a nuclear test took place by Israel and South Africa in 1979 and that the United States covered it up for political reasons.”

4. MLK.

“Can’t believe nobody has said this already: I am somewhat suspicious of the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination.

Just before the shooting occurred, a police radio call announced an active shooter and car chase on the opposite side of town and requested back up, lots of back up. Almost all of the cops on duty that day responded leaving 1 or 2 to respond to the King shooting. There was no car chase, no other shooter, and no one ever found out who made that radio call.”

5. Jack the Ripper.

“The identity of Jack the Ripper was known to the police.

He was actually detained and questioned by police before being released. He then left the country before they could rearrest him. Scotland Yard then covered up their failure, which snowballed into one of the biggest serial killer conspiracy theories in history.

This is supported by the fact that 132 years later, they are still withholding the case files and decline all Freedom of Information application as the files “may have an impact on living persons”.

6. Fighting against the environment.

“Certain Governments are actively working against environmental legislation because their countries have access rights to resources buried under the Arctic that they want to exploit once the ice caps melt.”

7. Doesn’t add up.

“Worldwide pedophile rings, and their involvement in Epstein´s murder.

I’m not talking about the adrenochrome shit, that’s just made up bullshit. I believe that Epstein was murdered to cover up larger pedophile rings.

Imagine this: you have a deal to expose all your clients, and have at least a little bit less strict prison sentence in exchange, and then you just hang yourself in your cell, when you have no way of knowing that the cameras are out, when no guards control your cell the way they should.

Seems like there are too many coincidences in this one for it to be just a random suicide.

I saw some autopsy photos, discussed the matter with my dad (who is an ex-cop who saw a couple of suicide victims, both saving them from the nooses, and on the table), and he said that he had never seen anyone with strangling marks in the middle of their neck that wasn’t a murder, since most hanging suicide victims have the marks right under their chin.

If Epstein survived, and still gave out the list, it could have had a couple of added names, but there are pretty big chances that some of his clients might have been involved in other pedophile rings, much larger than what his ring.

Shit just doesn’t add up.”

8. Interesting…

“That the term conspiracy theorists was coined by the CIA to make a mockery of people who put facts together out of loop of main stream media to se what was happening behind the scenes.

That turned into flat earthers, reptilian royals and whatever else falling under the same umbrella and skewering the public perception of theorists.

Many theories proved true ( CIA funneling drugs into the USA) but they fall under the umbrella as “moon landing fake” so people don’t really pay attention.”

9. What happened to her?

“Amelia Earhart didn’t crash, she was shot down by the Japanese because she was taking spy photos for the US government.

The timeline and geography makes sense, and other aviators of the time were approached with similar missions.”

10. Whoa!

“The lottery is designed to catch time travelers.

Is that why a myriad of bad things starts happening to them after they win? It’s actually pretty logical…”

11. Turkey.

“The failed coup in Turkey being staged by Erdogan.

It was just too perfect for him. Just at the right moment when he was popular and ready to take power a weak coup happens, giving him the perfect opportunity to crack down on any opposition? Come on.

He even said it was a gift from God himself.”

12. Brazilian politics.

“During last federal election in Brazil, a far-right candidate to presidency was stabbed during a rally.

This candidate was from a small party and did not have time on television to promote himself (less than 30s), but after that it was news in every news. Also because of the stabbing, he was on medical leave and did not participate of any debates between candidates. The main doctor from the team that operates the candidate was a well-known oncologist in Brazil.

Well, the candidate was Bolsonaro and the stabbing boost his campaign and he won.

After the election, the guy who stabbed was declare with mental issues and is on special-hospital-jail while we discover that he was practicing gun fire in the same school/field as bolsonaro’s son (which this guy clearly could not pay for) and had a high-profile lawyer (again, who is paying for this?)

The conspiracy theory is: Bolsonaro had cancer and create this circus to operate while boosting his chances on the election.”

13. A local conspiracy.

“Every time these threads come around, people always talk about the big national conspiracies. I’ll let you all in on a very rural town conspiracy.

I graduated high school with a gentleman that would eventually become a cop. Kid came from a military family, was an avid gamer and DnD player, and was generally a great guy. I know he wanted to join the military like his father but he was barred due to some weird physical condition he had.

Instead of the military, he goes into the police department and becomes a local cop. He’s still a pretty good guy, but you know how life goes on after HS. We talked less and less, etc. He even pulled my wife over once for a ticket but let her go once he recognized her. His family were super proud of him as well.

Suddenly, I receive bad news from a buddy of mine. My cop friend committed suicide in his house once it was discovered he was apparently selling kiddie pornography.

Other local cops surrounded his house, he sent his fiance outside to surrender, and then turned his pistol on himself. It was sad of course, and many people were upset in the local community. However, it never sat well with me.

His family always contested the claims of kiddie porn too. The report stated they found a large amount of it on all of his computers and hard-drives. My deceased friend loved building computers, and had lots of parts.

The local police seized ALL of his equipment. Afaik, they never returned any of it. It would seem odd that someone so intelligent would be stupid enough to just download kiddie porn and place it on their hard-drives. Perhaps he wasn’t as smart as I thought, but it just never sat well with me.

Furthermore, his partner that he was seen with suddenly disappeared from the public eye. Not a month after my friend committed suicide, this particular cop quit the force and just left town. To this day, no one knows where he went or why he disappeared. My buddies family has tried to press the police department for information but they never said anything beyond “He doesn’t want to be a cop anymore”.

Most people would argue that people leave jobs all the time, but this particular guy had lots of family here, including a wife and kids. He apparently just skipped town and sent divorce papers to his wife, and then was never heard from again.

Its never sat right with me, especially since my friend was so happy to be a cop. Maybe I completely just missed this side of him, or maybe I am looking too deeply into this. But still, I think it’s definitely weird how the timeline of events lined up.

How about you?

Are there some conspiracy theories that you think might be true?

Tell us all about them in the comments!

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People Talk About Conspiracy Theories That They Think Might Be Legit

I’ve been pretty obsessed with the 1963 assassination of John F. Kennedy since I was a little kid.

Who was behind it?

The Mafia? The Cubans? Russians?  Or was it just a lone wolf, like the government would have us believe?

The JFK assassination is just one of many conspiracy theories that people can spend a lot of time researching.

Can some of them possibly be true?

Here’s what AskReddit users had to say about this subject.

1. A coup.

“The 1975 dismissal of the then Australian Prime Minister, Gough Whitam (by the Governor General) was actually a British/American backed CIA coup, in order to prevent the nationalisation of Australia’s mining sector.”

2. Soviet space program.

“Yuri Gagarin wasn’t the first man in space, just the first to come back alive.”

3. Could it be true?

“There’s a very high chance that a nuclear test took place by Israel and South Africa in 1979 and that the United States covered it up for political reasons.”

4. MLK.

“Can’t believe nobody has said this already: I am somewhat suspicious of the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination.

Just before the shooting occurred, a police radio call announced an active shooter and car chase on the opposite side of town and requested back up, lots of back up. Almost all of the cops on duty that day responded leaving 1 or 2 to respond to the King shooting. There was no car chase, no other shooter, and no one ever found out who made that radio call.”

5. Jack the Ripper.

“The identity of Jack the Ripper was known to the police.

He was actually detained and questioned by police before being released. He then left the country before they could rearrest him. Scotland Yard then covered up their failure, which snowballed into one of the biggest serial killer conspiracy theories in history.

This is supported by the fact that 132 years later, they are still withholding the case files and decline all Freedom of Information application as the files “may have an impact on living persons”.

6. Fighting against the environment.

“Certain Governments are actively working against environmental legislation because their countries have access rights to resources buried under the Arctic that they want to exploit once the ice caps melt.”

7. Doesn’t add up.

“Worldwide pedophile rings, and their involvement in Epstein´s murder.

I’m not talking about the adrenochrome shit, that’s just made up bullshit. I believe that Epstein was murdered to cover up larger pedophile rings.

Imagine this: you have a deal to expose all your clients, and have at least a little bit less strict prison sentence in exchange, and then you just hang yourself in your cell, when you have no way of knowing that the cameras are out, when no guards control your cell the way they should.

Seems like there are too many coincidences in this one for it to be just a random suicide.

I saw some autopsy photos, discussed the matter with my dad (who is an ex-cop who saw a couple of suicide victims, both saving them from the nooses, and on the table), and he said that he had never seen anyone with strangling marks in the middle of their neck that wasn’t a murder, since most hanging suicide victims have the marks right under their chin.

If Epstein survived, and still gave out the list, it could have had a couple of added names, but there are pretty big chances that some of his clients might have been involved in other pedophile rings, much larger than what his ring.

Shit just doesn’t add up.”

8. Interesting…

“That the term conspiracy theorists was coined by the CIA to make a mockery of people who put facts together out of loop of main stream media to se what was happening behind the scenes.

That turned into flat earthers, reptilian royals and whatever else falling under the same umbrella and skewering the public perception of theorists.

Many theories proved true ( CIA funneling drugs into the USA) but they fall under the umbrella as “moon landing fake” so people don’t really pay attention.”

9. What happened to her?

“Amelia Earhart didn’t crash, she was shot down by the Japanese because she was taking spy photos for the US government.

The timeline and geography makes sense, and other aviators of the time were approached with similar missions.”

10. Whoa!

“The lottery is designed to catch time travelers.

Is that why a myriad of bad things starts happening to them after they win? It’s actually pretty logical…”

11. Turkey.

“The failed coup in Turkey being staged by Erdogan.

It was just too perfect for him. Just at the right moment when he was popular and ready to take power a weak coup happens, giving him the perfect opportunity to crack down on any opposition? Come on.

He even said it was a gift from God himself.”

12. Brazilian politics.

“During last federal election in Brazil, a far-right candidate to presidency was stabbed during a rally.

This candidate was from a small party and did not have time on television to promote himself (less than 30s), but after that it was news in every news. Also because of the stabbing, he was on medical leave and did not participate of any debates between candidates. The main doctor from the team that operates the candidate was a well-known oncologist in Brazil.

Well, the candidate was Bolsonaro and the stabbing boost his campaign and he won.

After the election, the guy who stabbed was declare with mental issues and is on special-hospital-jail while we discover that he was practicing gun fire in the same school/field as bolsonaro’s son (which this guy clearly could not pay for) and had a high-profile lawyer (again, who is paying for this?)

The conspiracy theory is: Bolsonaro had cancer and create this circus to operate while boosting his chances on the election.”

13. A local conspiracy.

“Every time these threads come around, people always talk about the big national conspiracies. I’ll let you all in on a very rural town conspiracy.

I graduated high school with a gentleman that would eventually become a cop. Kid came from a military family, was an avid gamer and DnD player, and was generally a great guy. I know he wanted to join the military like his father but he was barred due to some weird physical condition he had.

Instead of the military, he goes into the police department and becomes a local cop. He’s still a pretty good guy, but you know how life goes on after HS. We talked less and less, etc. He even pulled my wife over once for a ticket but let her go once he recognized her. His family were super proud of him as well.

Suddenly, I receive bad news from a buddy of mine. My cop friend committed suicide in his house once it was discovered he was apparently selling kiddie pornography.

Other local cops surrounded his house, he sent his fiance outside to surrender, and then turned his pistol on himself. It was sad of course, and many people were upset in the local community. However, it never sat well with me.

His family always contested the claims of kiddie porn too. The report stated they found a large amount of it on all of his computers and hard-drives. My deceased friend loved building computers, and had lots of parts.

The local police seized ALL of his equipment. Afaik, they never returned any of it. It would seem odd that someone so intelligent would be stupid enough to just download kiddie porn and place it on their hard-drives. Perhaps he wasn’t as smart as I thought, but it just never sat well with me.

Furthermore, his partner that he was seen with suddenly disappeared from the public eye. Not a month after my friend committed suicide, this particular cop quit the force and just left town. To this day, no one knows where he went or why he disappeared. My buddies family has tried to press the police department for information but they never said anything beyond “He doesn’t want to be a cop anymore”.

Most people would argue that people leave jobs all the time, but this particular guy had lots of family here, including a wife and kids. He apparently just skipped town and sent divorce papers to his wife, and then was never heard from again.

Its never sat right with me, especially since my friend was so happy to be a cop. Maybe I completely just missed this side of him, or maybe I am looking too deeply into this. But still, I think it’s definitely weird how the timeline of events lined up.

How about you?

Are there some conspiracy theories that you think might be true?

Tell us all about them in the comments!

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People Share Conspiracy Theories That Could Actually Be True

I’m not one to really believe in conspiracy theories, in general but I have to say that the more I dig into some of them, the more plausible some of them sound.

UFOs, political intrigue, assassinations. They’re very interesting to read about!

Do you believe in these kinds of things?

AskReddit users opened up about what conspiracies they think could be true.

1. Russian intrigue.

“That Vladimir Putin actually orchestrated the Moscow Apartment Bombings, to consolidate power and justify another war in Chechnya.

He killed thousands of his own people in a false flag attack and has murdered people since to keep it covered up.”

2. Social Security issues.

“Poor US virus response = mass deaths for middle-aged-to-elderly = insolvent Social Security gets a large reprieve as they don’t have to extend benefits to all those who would have drawn them = “I fixed Social Security”.”

3. One or the other.

“Democrats and Republicans working together to spread propaganda that you can only be one of the other.

Like, the idea that third parties are way to small to even have a chance of being elected (for president or for congress), and therefore should be ignored.

It makes sense because no one wants to waste their vote, so they won’t vote for third parties. Third parties then have no power. That means Democrats and Republicans don’t have to compromise with each other because they only have one competition, which is with each other.”

4. September 11.

“The CIA /FBI /American administration knew about 911 and either let it happen or instigated it in order to further assert dominance in the world, especially the middle east.”

5. Wiped out.

“My Polish friend told me this and showed me a video that seemed quite believable.

In 2010 an airplane from the Polish government crashed with pretty much all of the Polish leaders onboard. The video that exists shows part of the crash site and some people shouting in Russian. Afterwards some shots are heard.

The theory is that Russia shot the airplane down as the Polish officials were on the way to Russia.”

6. That’s a creepy story.

“The Dyatlov Pass incident wasn’t actually a natural accident… something killed them.

The amount of radiation in their blood certainly couldn’t have been from just passing through an area with radiation whilst they were traveling could it.

And to die with their tongues ripped out and other such fatalities it seems very odd the government would label it as death by natural causes especially when the camp they were at was left rapidly.”

7. Was it suicide?

“I really don’t think Kurt Cobain committed suicide.

The entire story always felt off to me, not to mention some of the harrowing details I learned of later on that seemed way too suspicious.

I’m not really sure if Courtney Love was involved, but I definitely feel like there was some foul play.”

8. Biological testing.

“In August of 1994, a small Washington town was subjected to biological testing by the US Government.

Over the course of three weeks they had 6 “rain storms” that consisted of gelatinous blobs. Anyone that came in physical contact with them (even with latex gloves) became ill, with dizziness, nausea, and other symptoms. Originally the towns doctor diagnosed almost everyone with ear infections.

After finally getting someone to agree to test the blobs, they found white blood cells and bacteria in them. Everything from a water spout picking up jellyfish and dropping them on the town, to the possibility of it being from an illegal dumping of an airplane toilet, have been debunked as not feasible.

The air force admitted to testing weapons near a coastal town about 50 miles away, and residents are adamant they had an unusual amount of government air traffic leading up to the events.

The Air Force denies any involvement, but the residents are almost positive they were the unwilling test subjects in something more sinister than flying jellyfish.”

9. Oh, great.

“The anti-vax movement is propped up by various foreign bad actors (i.e. the Chinese/Russian governments) via social media to literally weaken western powers through diminished health and faith in our own technologies.”

10. Never heard this before.

“The Titanic didn’t sink, the Olympic did.

The story goes that after a disastrous maiden voyage of the Olympic, it would cost millions to repair in a time where a million was a lot of money. It’s sister ship, titanic was still being built so they hatched an insurance fraud scam.

They swapped the name plates between the two ships, labeled the Olympic as the titanic, and set sail. They planned to take damage to the ship, have a nearby ship save everyone, collect the insurance money and party hard.

Except there was a small boat illegally doing stuff in between the titanic/Olympic, so when the titanic/Olympic sent up flairs for help, the other ship responded instead of the planned one causing the messages to become confused, so the ship that was sent to save everyone was late and a lot of people died.”

11. What???

“That William Shakespeare was just an actor.

Everything he wrote was written by Sir Francis Bacon. Jenna and Julian did a podcast on this and it was really interesting to listen to.”

12. Thoughts on this?

“Putin has leverage on Trump and is using it.

Trump is just trying to use the presidency to dig his family out of debt, and all of his family are making back room deals to sell American policy for personal wealth.”

13. They’re out there…

“Aliens.

Anyone doubting this is delusional. With all the space stuff we’ve receive and evidence that intelligent life might exist elsewhere (my Earth standards), anyone else think life might exist outside the “cosmos” or restrictions humans put on life?

There is probably different elements, substances, stuff we can’t comprehend that exists, but it blows our minds and admitting it is scary.”

14. Sphinx.

 “The Sphinx is undoubtedly not dated correctly. Our understanding of the rise of civilization is WAY off, and it’s all because of the egos of the archeological and “egyptological” communities.

Textbooks would have been to be rewritten. Careers would be ruined. Thankfully, the internet and people’s own good judgement is very helpful in revealing this atrocity of a lie.

Biggest claim is that extensive water erosion occurred on the enclosure walls and back of the Sphinx that would date back to the end of the last ice age, when there was heavy rainfall and lots of water in the area, about 11-12 thousands years ago, which is much further back in history than current claims by “egyptologists.”

⁠There isn’t much evidence in ancient Egyptian text to support the claim that it was fully carved in Egypt’s old kingdom. There is evidence, though, to suggest that the current ‘human’ head was recarved by a new Egyptian king when he found a huge stone head (maybe a lion’s) sticking out of the sand, but the human head is way out of proportion to the rest of the body, suggesting that the head was recarved from a different original head (maybe a lion).

The disproportionate head is really telling, because there are no other examples of animals or humans with disproportionate body parts found anywhere else in Egypt from that time. Ancient Egyptians loves their proportions and were obsessed with getting them just right.

There is ground penetrating radar evidence to suggest that that there is a subsurface chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx, and when Egyptian authorities found out about this, they shut down the whole radar search operation and banned them from further searching. Further suggestions to insert a small camera probe down into the chamber have been met with hostility.

Egypt’s old minister of antiquities, when asked about the water erosion of the Sphinx and the newly found left paw chamber, literally said “I don’t believe in radar, but I do believe in what we already know”. You would think that Egyptology would be a an actual science, but it’s definitely not.

Just a few points, but there’s a lot more to dig into. Do your due diligence.”

Do you think there are some conspiracy theories that might be true?

Tell us what you think in the comments.

We can’t wait to hear what you have to say!

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An Astronaut Posted Pictures of Earth and Flat-Earthers Complained

The Earth is round – we’ve known this for many hundreds of years. It wasn’t particularly controversial for much of that time, but for some reason there has recently sprung up a small contingent of people that insists, incorrectly, that the world is flat.

Jessica Mier is a NASA astronaut who witnessed the beauty of looking at Earth from a distance. She shared a few photos online with the world so the rest of us could appreciate our home.

There are always people who want to diminish something beautiful and positive. After Mier uploaded these photos, flat-earthers showed their disdain.

Several people accused NASA (and Mier) of using a fisheye lens to take photos of our “flat” Earth. You’re probably familiar with this, but a fisheye lens can make objects look more curved and wider. This effect can make flat objects look more spherical.

Others quickly shut down these flat earth theories.

Well, at least some of these good people tried to knock some sense into flat-earthers.

Mier currently resides in the International Space Station and is an accomplished physiologist from Texas. It’s clear that she loves her job, and she frequently posts about what she sees from space, the history of astronomy, and her workplace adventures.

She even delivers lectures from space!

Regardless of what a few flat-earthers might say, Mier is clearly going to continue killing it at NASA.

What did you think of these pictures and the flat-earthers’ responses? If you have anything to say about these photographs or the flat-earthers who might try to discredit them, know what we’ll totally respect your comments…

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13 of the Strangest Conspiracy Theories You’ve Probably Never Heard About

Conspiracy theories seem to be everywhere, but, sadly (or – actually – probably for the best), most of them fly under the radar for most of us. Unless something happens that places them in the mainstream consciousness, only a select few followers of said beliefs ever even know they exist.

And let me tell you, after you check some of these out, you’re going to be sorry you weren’t let in on the secrets sooner.

As told by the Buzzfeed Community.

13. Ronald Reagan did away with the birds. All of them.

All birds died in 1986 and were replaced with drones to spy on the public.

12. Leonardo DiCaprio had something to do with River Phoenix’s death.

Shortly after his Oscar nomination for Running on Empty, River Phoenix was asked what movie he wanted to do next. He pulled out a copy of The Basketball Diaries and said, “I want to play Jim Carroll.” Phoenix would have done anything to get this role, but apparently Leo DiCaprio wanted it as well. That’s why he played a part in Phoenix’s fatal overdose.

In fact, Leo has even admitted to seeing Phoenix at a party in LA the night he died. After his untimely death, the role of Jim Carroll went to Leo DiCaprio, which helped launch him into superstardom.

11. The Red Cross isn’t using your blood the way you think.

 

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Something sinister is going on with the blood donations the Red Cross collects. Sometimes they sell it for profit, and other times the government uses it for biowarfare testing. Most shockingly, the Illuminati uses it for satanic rituals.

10. Stevie Wonder isn’t really blind.

A lot of people believe this one. Donald Glover even got a little suspicious after meeting Stevie Wonder a few times. He claimed that some things just weren’t adding up. Interesting!

9. Big Pharma is hiding cures for diseases like cancer and HIV.

 

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This one is simple: the pharmaceutical industry makes billions and billions of dollars each year, so they have no interest in releasing the already-existing vaccines. Unfortunately, lifetime treatments for an “incurable” disease are way more lucrative for them.

8. J.K. Rowling is hiding a big secret.

Some people believe that J.K. Rowling didn’t actually write the Harry Potter books. Instead, they were ghost-written by a giant group people. This conspiracy theory goes one step further and claims that Rowling is actually Rita Skeeter, and she wrote the stories of Harry Potter after being banished from the Wizarding World.

7. Men in Black is based in real life.

 

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Aliens exist, and the government is trying to cover it up. They have a secret organization, almost identical to the one in Men in Black, whose job is to destroy all evidence and memory of alien lifeforms.

6. Coke and Pepsi are one and the same.

Apparently the rivalry between each company is completely fake. It’s simply used as a ploy to get people to take sides and buy more of each product. That way the people who secretly own both companies will make even more money.

5. Ancestry DNA (and like services) are owned by the government, who wants to build genetic models of every citizen.

Ancestry DNA kits are actually kind of genius. Not only are you paying to give the government samples of your DNA, but you’re also letting them do research on you and your family. Now they can track you, learn about your genetics, and keep records of your extremely personal information.

4. The government is trying to convince you to shave off your beard so it won’t mess with facial recognition software.

This one is pretty self-explanatory. It’s hard for the government to keep tabs on humans if their facial recognition software doesn’t work, so they anonymously claimed that beards were unsanitary, in hopes that people would shave them.

3. The real Paul McCartney died in 1966.

This one is dark. Apparently Paul McCartney died in a car crash in 1966. He was then replaced by a lookalike because the band’s managers thought there’d be an uptake in suicides if people found out the truth about his death. The other Beatles members apparently referred to the lookalike as “Faul,” a combination of the words “fake Paul.”

2. Television was created as a grand distraction from the events of real life.

The first American TV stations came into existence in the late ’20s and early ’30s, but televisions weren’t commercially sold until about 1938. Around the same time, the government was making a lot of mistakes and needed to distract the public from what was really going on. Interesting.

1. All of reality is an illusion a la The Truman Show.

 

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Reality is an illusion. Every decision you’ve ever made, everything you’ve ever seen or believed, and everything in existence (even the entire universe) is fake. Essentially, we’re all stuck in a computer game and someone has been controlling us.

You’re off to do more research now, aren’t you?

I know I am!

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