Do You Think Fish is Meat? People Debated This Big Question.

I have a friend who told me that he was going vegetarian for a while to see how he liked it.

We were chatting a little while after he started his new diet and I asked him what he was making for dinner that night. His answer: salmon.

I was a bit confused and I asked him why he wasn’t a vegetarian anymore. He replied, “fish isn’t meat.”

Hmmmm…I’m pretty sure that it is…but maybe I’ve been wrong on this one the whole time?

So what do you think? If fish meat?

AskReddit users weighed in with their opinions.

1. I don’t get it…

“I don’t understand why people say that fish is not meat.

Meat is defined as “the flesh of an animal as food.” Why isn’t fish considered a meat then?! Why do religions act like it is not meat? Why is the flesh of a fish not considered meat?

It literally makes no sense to me. I understand it is food from the sea, hence seafood, but seafood is just meat from the “sea.””

2. It stuck.

““Fish is not meat” comes from the Catholic/Christian tradition of fasting (not eating) meat during Friday’s and during Lent. Depriving oneself of a luxury to remind yourself of Jesus’ sacrifice.

Fish was a common and inexpensive food in the area earlier christians lived. Hence it was not a luxury and didn’t need to be avoided while fasting.

That turned into “fish doesn’t count as meat” because it wasn’t part of the fast.

Of course fish is animal flesh, but that wasn’t the point. It’s kind of stuck since.”

3. It’s a mindset.

“In the modern day English speaking world, eg the US because it’s so large, a culture filled with “red meat”, fish is often perceived as less hearty, lighter.

In other words “meat” is often synonymous with “red meat”(primarily beef in an array of cuts and preparations(roast, steak, ribs, hamburger, etc), with most other animal flesh less common, many falling either into delicacies or inedible. Pork, fish, and poultry are more common than, say, shrimp or venison but are still less proliferate than beef for much of the nation.

It may have started with religion, but it continues in the US heavily because that’s what’s readily available and/or what the culture focuses on.”

4. It’s an animal.

“I have to say this to everyone who says, “can you eat fish” when I say I’m a vegetarian.

My mother in law does this all the time. No. Fish is meat. It’s an animal. It’s flesh.

I don’t understand how a fish can be considered not meat.”

5. Blame it on them.

“I think that’s more because over the years so many pescatarians said they were vegetarian.

And because no one knew what a pescatarian was and it was just easier to tell people you were vegetarian, but ate fish.”

6. LOL.

“This reminds me of one of the three jokes that I think of when someone says “tell a joke”.

What do you call a vegetarian who eats fish?

A liar.

It’s not a good joke, and the one time I posted it on Facebook 10 years ago someone pointed out that they’re pescatarian and just don’t know that word.”

7. No doubt about it.

“It’s meat.

It’s an animal that was living and breathing.

Therefore, it’s meat.”

8. It’s clean.

“It’s because we are not supposed to eat blood, and red meats are considered to be a lot closer to that and hence considered less “clean”.

Fish is “white meat” (despite some fish such as the salminidaes being orange and such), along with poultry. I also don’t think fish ISN’T considered meat, it’s just not improper to eat under different circumstances.

Another important thing too is that Fish is considered to be a much lower quality/cheaper item that is “easily replenishable without having to farm them”. On the other hand red meat is more of a luxury item (especially beef and lamb).

Fish IS considered meat by literally everyone. It’s just considered edible and pure to eat while the other meats aren’t across different religions.”

9. Good comparison.

“Same reason alcohol is usually considered separate from other drugs, I assume.

Maybe not in a literal sense, but the constant distinction of “Drugs and alcohol” always annoys me.

Kind of implies alcohol isn’t a drug…Yeah it is.”

10. Where’s the line?

“”I’m a vegetarian, but I eat fish.”

This has always upset me. Like. Fish are animals, why would you consider them differently? Honestly fish are dope. They’re super pretty, have homes where they spawn for generations, they can jump up waterfalls and grow swords out of their faces.

Fish are truly incredible and someone out there is like nah, f*ck them fish. They’re not animals. They’re just an addition to my veggies.

I just don’t understand where the line is drawn.”

11. Here’s another view.

“The reason Catholics are permitted to eat fish on what Catholics call “days of abstinence” is not because fish are not meat, but because fish are cold blooded. (so this means alligator would be fine as well).

This originated from a Jewish tradition where any cold blooded animal was associated with death, ex, snakes, lizards and so on. (hence the devil being referred to as a “serpent”).

On the other hand. Warm blooded animals were associated with life, ex lamb, goats, and cattle. In remembrance of Jesus being crucified as a “sacrificial lamb” Catholics are asked to observe days of abstinence on certain days.

Fish are indeed meat and the Catholic Church doesn’t actually claim that they aren’t.”

What do you think about this?

Is fish meat?

Sound off in the comments. We’d love to hear from you!

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Check Out Lizzo’s Special Recipe for the Hungover Vegans Out There

Lizzo is an icon. And while she hasn’t been active on the tour scene lately, she’s definitely been active writing and making us all jealous of her poolside ways.

But despite the fact that her insta handle is @LizzoBeEating, she doesn’t tend to dedicate a ton of her online space to food content.

When she does though, it’s pretty great.

Recently, she offered up her personal solution to a big conundrum: what do you eat if you’re committed to a vegan diet, but you had a little too much to drink last night?

“Being plant based and vegan has been pretty easy,” she says in a cooking TikTok, “except for when I’m hungover. I used to crave cheesy eggs. So, here is my substitute…”

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Might do a what I eat in a day vid because I feel like us fat queens need to represent 🤤

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It sounds pretty good even to us omnivores. Here’s how the recipe breaks down:

1. Carne Asada and Black Bean Corn Mixture

This is the base for the recipe, she talks more about it in a previous video you can watch here.

2. JUST Egg

Add this plant-based egg substitute to the mix.

3. Season to Taste

Lizzo added some garlic powder, smoked paprika, salt, and pepper.

4. Add Spinach

Gotta get those greens in there.

5. Slice of Vegan Pepperjack

For a little spice.

6. Fry Up Some Vegan Bacon

Lizzo recommends cooking it in maple syrup so it’s “crunchy and candied.”

7. Enjoy!

Now you’re ready to chow down on what she calls “a really ugly but delicious scramble!”

A few specialty items to pick up for sure, but if you’re already stocking up for a plant-based diet, this sure looks like a recipe to try!

What’s YOUR go-to hangover meal?

Tell us in the comments.

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Enjoy These Funny Photos of Vegan ‘Hunters’

Let’s have a little fun, shall we? Why so serious? Everything doesn’t have to be so intense all the time.

Vegans can be hunters too, did you know that?

Oh, you don’t believe me? Well, let’s look at the evidence…

1. Quite a haul.

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2. He means business.

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3. Starting ’em young.

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4. The cat helped out, too.

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5. Triple Trouble.

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6. He will now prepare a feast.

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7. Out in the wilderness.

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8. Look at the size of those things!

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9. Delicious and nutritious.

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10. Smashing pumpkins.

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11. The Carrot Hunter.

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12. Going vegan with his trusty friend.

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Yuk yuk yuk yuk! Pretty funny, huh?

Are you a vegan?

If so, tell us how long you’ve been at it and how it’s affected your life in the comments. We’d love to hear from you!

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In 2016, Guinness confirmed…

In 2016, Guinness confirmed that it had changed up its filtration process eliminating the use of isinglass (derived from the dried swim bladders of fish) making it officially vegan.

Advice About Going Vegan from People Who Have Been There

It’s intimidating to start a new lifestyle, especially one that will have a major impact on your daily life in pretty much every way imaginable. One way to prepare yourself is by doing plenty of research, including getting advice from people who have gone before you. Frankly, hearing what they have to say can be invaluable to a successful transition.

So, if you’re considering ditching meat and other animal byproducts in the near future, these 12 pieces of advice from practicing vegans are required reading.

12. Listen to your body.

“A lot of people are allergic or intolerant to soya and quorn so try things but make note of any reactions (usually a dodgy tummy). If you want to be a ‘clean-eating’ vegan then stay away from junk food and meat/dairy substitutes, they are usually bulked out with carbs and fat. If that doesn’t bother you, go wild.” —lolalal

11. Ease into it with foods from regions that eat naturally plant-based.

“Focus your attention to foods from regions that naturally tend to be plant-based. Don’t try to replace your favorites all at once but look to eating beans and grains for satiation. Tacos, burritos, curries, Asian noodles, chili and cornbread, cannellini beans and pasta, are all friendly and easy ways to feel full and nourished.” —elyseh4fc39db5a

10. Expand your cooking range and community to help you feel entrenched.

“Do yourself a favor and purchase the Vegan Stoner cookbook on Amazon. So many awesome and easy vegan recipes. Vegan Mac and Peas is simple and delicious!” —emmaf49fcf7695

“‘Accidentally Vegan’ is a great IG page with everyday items that are unintentionally vegan friendly. ‘Madeleine Olivia’ does great budget vegan food shopping haul videos on YouTube, along with recipes from said hauls.” —lolalal

9. Hopefully you enjoy Indian and Mexican foods.

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“Curries are fantastic! Sweet potato, chickpeas, lentils and tofu can all be used instead of meat! You can use coconut cream for a creamy curry sauce.

Mexican food is also easy as heck to make vegan – just use beans and mushrooms instead of meat and load up on veggies 🙂 .” —cazboline”

8. It’s fine to start just with the easy stuff.

“Jumping right in with the plan of learning a million new vegan recipes is awesome, but can be super overwhelming. Fall back on the easy (and cheap!) stuff – PBJ, pasta with marinara, smoothies, oatmeal, falafel, soups, chili (just minus the meat), etc. Chipotle is also my fav dependable easy option for a quick and yummy vegan meal.” –Mbpanda

7. Give your tastebuds a break before jumping into meat and cheese alternatives.

“I wouldn’t suggest jumping right in to meat alternatives, trust me they will taste a lot better when you haven’t had a burger in a year. If you go straight from having real meat to meat alternatives, the thought may make you feel sick.” —cieraskye

“Do a cheese detox before trying vegan cheese! I waited about 6 months and it gave my tastebuds a chance to adjust because it is a very different taste. I would also recommend trying to get your hands on Mozzarisella, it’s the best vegan pizza cheese.” —lolalal

6. You might want to supplement with vitamins.

“Make sure to take a B12 supplement and perhaps iron. I’ve been vegan for over 2 years. The first year I didn’t supplement and my energy levels paid for it.” —kmfogleman

5. Get your cheese substitute recs here!

“Cheese for yeast flakes! It makes the transition easier, trust me. Just sprinkle it on top if you’re craving a cheesy taste.” —alicep47367d31a

“For me, cutting out dairy was the most difficult part. So here’s some recommendations to hopefully help someone else! Milk: so many awesome alternatives (soy, coconut, nut, hemp, etc.) but my absolute fav is oat milk. Oatly is the best brand imo. I actually strongly prefer it over dairy milk even if I wasn’t vegan. Cheese: Fieldroast’s Chao has been the best I’ve tried so far. Great for grilled cheese, pizza, sandwiches, etc. Also a fan of Follow Your Heart brand and Kite Hill’s ricotta. Butter: Earth Balance is fantastic. I’ve also heard Miyokos is outstanding (for cheeses too) but I haven’t tried it yet! ” —biebersdadssoulpatch

4. Eat more vegetables.

“Don’t think of it as losing access to food. Just start focusing more eating a ton vegetables and everywhere you can have a vegetable instead – do It! Mac and cheese lover? Try sweet potato mac. Big taco fan? Chickpea tacos it is. You’ll feel better and not like you are being deprived of anything. Also Oreos are still vegan if you’re in veggie overload.” —odonnellshea17

3. Become an expert at reading labels.

“Learn to read food labels…milk is hidden in so many things!” – Mariah

2. If you’re giving up a favorite food, try finding a replacement recipe.

“When I’m making vegan mac and ‘cheese’, I make a white sauce using unsweetened soya milk heated and thickened with cornstarch. I then add salt, smoked paprika and mustard powder. Maybe it doesn’t taste like traditional mac and cheese, but the smoke paprika definitely is reminiscent of smoked cheese, and it works for me!” —enilorac2

1. Become friends with nuts, seeds, and fresh herbs.

“Nuts and seeds are seriously slept on. Roast them on top veggies, sprinkle on pasta or salads, or make your own trail mix. They’re so versatile.” —copperfox666

“You MUST use spices and herbs – fresh herbs will change your life!” –emcduffie916

I’m not going vegan any time soon, but these tips are definitely interesting anyway.

Are you vegan? Are you considering it? Let us know what you think!

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A Vegan Woman Demanded Her Neighbor Stop Using Meat on the Barbecue Because of the Smell

Many vegans aren’t exactly subtle about their beliefs. But one vegan in Australia really took things several steps too far when she sued her neighbor for barbecuing in their own backyard.

Cilla Carden is a vegan massage therapist from Girrawheen, Australia. She claims that her neighbors intentionally barbecued fish in their backyard to bother her.

“They’ve put [the barbecue] there so I smell fish, all I can smell is fish. I can’t enjoy my back yard, I can’t go out there,” Cilla told Nine News Perth.

“It’s deliberate, that’s what I told the courts, it’s deliberate.”

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To repeat: the argument is that they are deliberately cooking in their own backyard in order to waft the scent of fish, which Cilla does not eat as she is vegan, into Cilla’s yard. To…punish her? Or something?

This seems to be a case of a long-running neighborly feud. Cilla is not only bothered by the barbecuing, but also by her neighbors’ cigarette smoke and the sounds of their children playing, both of which drift into her own yard.

So, she filed a lawsuit in the Supreme Court of the state of Western Australia, accusing her neighbors of breaching residential laws. The legal battle has dragged on since 2017. Her case was thrown out by a tribunal and a Supreme Court judge. Cilla filed an appeal, but that was thrown out too.

“What they are doing is living in their backyard and their home as a family,” said the State Administrative Tribunal of Western Australia.

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Cilla’s neighbors have reportedly conceded to some of Cilla’s demands. They removed the barbecue and banned their kids from playing basketball in the yard.

But Cilla plans to continue fighting them in court.

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A Vegan Woman Demanded Her Neighbor Stop Using Meat on the Barbecue Because of the Smell

Many vegans aren’t exactly subtle about their beliefs. But one vegan in Australia really took things several steps too far when she sued her neighbor for barbecuing in their own backyard.

Cilla Carden is a vegan massage therapist from Girrawheen, Australia. She claims that her neighbors intentionally barbecued fish in their backyard to bother her.

“They’ve put [the barbecue] there so I smell fish, all I can smell is fish. I can’t enjoy my back yard, I can’t go out there,” Cilla told Nine News Perth.

“It’s deliberate, that’s what I told the courts, it’s deliberate.”

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To repeat: the argument is that they are deliberately cooking in their own backyard in order to waft the scent of fish, which Cilla does not eat as she is vegan, into Cilla’s yard. To…punish her? Or something?

This seems to be a case of a long-running neighborly feud. Cilla is not only bothered by the barbecuing, but also by her neighbors’ cigarette smoke and the sounds of their children playing, both of which drift into her own yard.

So, she filed a lawsuit in the Supreme Court of the state of Western Australia, accusing her neighbors of breaching residential laws. The legal battle has dragged on since 2017. Her case was thrown out by a tribunal and a Supreme Court judge. Cilla filed an appeal, but that was thrown out too.

“What they are doing is living in their backyard and their home as a family,” said the State Administrative Tribunal of Western Australia.

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Cilla’s neighbors have reportedly conceded to some of Cilla’s demands. They removed the barbecue and banned their kids from playing basketball in the yard.

But Cilla plans to continue fighting them in court.

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The New Vegan “Beyond Fried Chicken” from KFC Is a Big Hit

“A Kentucky Fried Miracle”. Yes, you read that right. If you need any more proof about how popular veganism is these days, look no further than that old standby, KFC.

Wait…what?

The fast food chain tested a new vegan chicken in Atlanta on August 27, and to the astonishment of literally everyone, they sold out in only five hours.

The new vegan chicken is made in collaboration with Beyond Meat, the fake-meat superpower that is gaining popularity by the day. The vegan product was offered as a nugget with dipping sauce and as a boneless wing covered in sauce.

Because the experiment went so well, it’ll be interesting to see what’s next for KFC in the vegan department. Will they forge ahead with permanent vegan items on the menu, or was this just a tease? You’d have to hope that the company will take note of what a big hit this was. I mean, the lines were out the door, apparently.

A nutritionist who attended the Atlanta extravaganza said, “These taste more like fried chicken than any of the other options that I’ve tried, so I really hope that they make these available nationwide and very soon.”

It’s been a big year for fast food vegan options. Burger King launched the Impossible Whopper, and other places like Carl’s Jr., my beloved White Castle, and Dunkin’ Donuts offered up vegan fare as well. Is the tide turning in the fast food world? We shall see…

One note: the KFC vegan products are 100% plant-based but they do share a fryer with meat products, so keep that in mind, okay?

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16 Awful People Talk About Serving Vegans Meat and They’re Not Sorry

I’m TOTALLY against pretty much everything that these people are admitting to in these secrets. Because, yes, vegans and vegetarians can be a bit pretentious when it comes to their lifestyle choice. But they trying to LITERALLY not eat another animal’s flesh. Or byproducts of that animal. That’s a good thing.

Still, meat eaters (especially these assholes) have had enough and are taking matters into their own hands by serving meat in their dishes.

Get ready to meet some horrible people!

1. Yeah, how dare he…

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2. She hasn’t noticed but she knows? Whaaa….

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3. How does that work?!

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4. Yeah, you’re dumb for wanting to be health and not kill things to eat them!

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5. Well, this is gonna happen sometime…

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6. Yeah, this will last…

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7. So… why? Do you not like her?

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8. You daredevil!

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9. Haha lol… fart…

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10. Starting to feel guilty? Hmmm…

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11. I mean, butter isn’t that bad, but meat? Come on…

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12. Well, ketchup covered pasta is pretty much a crime against food, so…

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13. Isn’t it harder to cook meat than put together a bunch of veggies?

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14. Yes… never be rude to assholes. You never know what’s going to happen…

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15. Okay, not mad at this…

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16. Oh, grow up!

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Have a story about being an awful human being and tricking people into eating ACTUAL flesh when they don’t want to?

Well, share those stories in the comments! 😀

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Sandwich-Loving Vegan is Shocked to Discover That Mayonnaise ISN’T Vegan

Vegans are notorious for how passionate they are about their lifestyle, a passion which sometimes borders on being annoyingly overzealous. Even the ones who aren’t the “militant” stereotype portrayed by the media are still very knowledgeable about what they put into their bodies.

That’s why it’s so strange (and slightly hilarious) that one particular vegan didn’t even know that mayonnaise has egg whites in it!

An anonymous guy who works at Subway told this story.

“Yesterday I had a chick come in, she told me she wanted a Veggie Delight,” he began. “As I went to get the bread she asked me if I could change my gloves cause she was vegan and I had been handling meat. I did that, no problem, perfectly reasonable request. I get her breast, toast it and put all the veggies she wants on it, I start to wrap up her sandwich when she says, ‘Can I get some mayo?’”

This is where things went hilariously sideways.

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The employee said to the vegan: “You know mayonnaise has eggs in it right?”

“THIS. GIRL. JUST. STOOD. THERE. SILENT,” he wrote. Then she said: “N-no it doesn’t, I get mayo every time, are you sure?”

After confirming that, yes, he was sure, the girl “stood there with such a distraught and defeated face. I had shattered this poor girl’s world.”

AND IT GETS BETTER. The employee asked again whether she wanted mayo on her sandwich, AND SHE SAID YES.

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“So I gave her her mayo, wrapped her sandwich up and charged her for her sandwich, she was silent the whole time,” he said. On her way out, he called “Have a nice day!”

“She just looked at me, sighed, ‘yea, I’ll try’ and walked out. And that’s the story of how I taught a vegan that mayonnaise is, in fact, not vegan.”

Better late than never. FYI, mayonnaise is just eggs with oil, lemon, vinegar, and seasoning.

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